THIS just in: The ANC in the Western Cape is freaked out. Why? Because the Western Cape legislature has scheduled Helen Zille’s state of the province address for four days BEFORE Jacob Zuma gives his state of the nation address. Apparently this is a breach of protocol.
Here’s a letter written by the ANC’s Max Ozinsky on this matter:
Dear Sheikh Esau
RE: PROGRAMME OF THE LEGISLATURE
The ANC has been given a “programme” for the legislature until the end of July. To date no meeting of the Programming Authority has taken place, nor was there any consultation with the opposition parties before the “programme” was issued, as is required in the Rules of the Provincial Parliament.
In view of this, the programme” cannot be considered an official programme of the Legislature.
Nonetheless, instructions have been given to make arrangements to implement the “programme”.
We are concerned that in this “programme”, it is indicated that the Premier’s State of the Province speech will take place on the 29th May, four days before the President of the Republic delivers the State of the Nation address.
It is convention and tradition that Premiers make their State of the Province addresses after the President delivers his State of the Nation address, so that they may respond to the national policy framework and direction provided by the President. It would seem that this “programme” has been insisted on by the Premier, so that she can use her reply to the debate to respond to the President’s address, without giving other parties this opportunity, as they will have spoken in the Legislature debate before the President’s address.
We are concerned that it is the Premier who is driving the programme of the Legislature and not the Programming Authority, or the other arms of the Legislature. This has grave implications for the oversight role and independence of the Legislature in relation to the Premier and the Provincial Government.
We hope, Speaker, that you will ensure that the Legislature functions according to its rules and that the date of the State of the Nation address will be changed. We also call for the Programming Authority to meet as soon as possible.
Chief Whip, Official Opposition
Is this a real issue or just another flabberblast?
@ George Bunny chow,
” Who will stand for me”?
Who else can it be?, It’s the Madam.
You voted for her, so she will be your advocate.
I am afraid though, given the face and composition of her cabinet. The key focus will be Constantia, and other top Western Cape suburbs where all her boyfriends reside.
For that, who is to blame? All the Gugulethu, Khayelitsha, Cape flats, and all other poor condoms that voted for this girl.
Although I do not like the composition of her cabinet, but I am very glad that it is the way it is. Madam has rightfully put you where you belong. I am praying that Madam keeps it that way.
I still want to see those Kapies, and other stupids from Gugulethu, etc smoking those drugs, and drinking that Carling black label, while madam’s boyfriends are having Johnie Walker blues. That is the price you pay for your stupidity and sucking a grannies pus.s.
You see my friend, I don’t have to worry about the poor. I stay in a fairly decent surbub in Durban not far away from people you either respect or curse, that’s depend on your jelouse., but if poor people shoot themseves on a foot, sorry that is not my problem.
dont worry. when the poor have no food, they will come and give you man-love. and then they will eat out of you fridge! HAU! then you will have iProbleem!
I dont blame zille you chop! she is the awesomest! i would vote for her again anyday, simply because she kept your uncles out of my province!
Oh, i looked you up. your art sucks balls! i cant believe you actually won a prize for that. LOLZ. try painting next time.
@ George Rajburns,
Very good my friend, at least you sound sober and normal now. Well done!!!, that is how the ANC wants to see you.
who can i foward this to at the natal technikon?
your stupidity amazes me. the fact that you blog with your own name, such arrogance and pride. cant resist it. lolz.
@ George Rajburns,
I understand why you are amazed Mr Rajburns. The question is, who is going to do what to me? the answer is no one.
Those days, where we were scared of the BAAS are over today we are our own BAASes our selves. I hope that penetrated you thick scull.
@ Nkosinathi Khanyile – how is it possible that somebody who has been to school can resort to comments like yours? Does your mind revolve solely around ***, concubines and uninformed propoganda? I’m perplexed that a person who purports to know what’s best for his country is only able to spew forth filth instead of making valid, workable suggestions.
I pity you.
@ George Burns – shame on you, you’re finding yourself into the same sewer. I suggest you scramble out of it.
Don’t ride a horse ….. in 2009 we have cars.
lol. the horse line was funny (no sarcasm)
“The atomic bomb
The massive research and development demands of the war included the Manhattan Project, the effort to quickly develop an atomic bomb, or nuclear fission warhead. It was perhaps the most profound military development of the war, and had a great impact on the scientific community, among other things creating a network of n@tional l@boratories in the United States.”
“One of the most dramatic single medical advances was probably the wide spread use of penicillin to treat wounds and bacterial diseases.”
“For the Germans it was the development of alternative fuels as in hydrogen peroxide – which would be a forerunner to the development of fuel-cell technology and synthetic fuel technology.”
“Electronics, communications and intelligence
German Enigma encryption machine.
Electronics rose to prominence quickly in World War II. While prior to the war few electronic devices were seen as important pieces of equipment, by the middle of the war such instruments as radar and ASDIC (sonar) had proven their value. Additionally, equipment designed for communications and the interception of those communications was becoming critical.
Digital electronics, particularly, were also given a massive boost by war-related research. The pressing need for numerous time-critical calculations for various projects like code-breaking and ballistics tables accentuated the need for the development of electronic computer technology. The semi-secret ENIAC and the super-secret Colossus demonstrated using thousands of valves (vacuum tubes) could be reliable enough to be useful, paving the way for the post-war development of stored program computers.
The United Kingdom and the United States were the leaders in electronics. The US center for basic radar development was the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Radiation Laboratory. The British developed the magnetron which is now used in microwave ovens.”
it was the BAAS that made theees
And i quote just one of the many examples listed herein:
“The complex histories of computer science and computer engineering were shaped, in the first decades of digital computing, almost entirely by military funding. Most of the basic component technologies for digital computing were developed through the course of the long-running Whirlwind-SAGE program to develop an automated radar shield. Virtually unlimited funds enabled two decades of research that only began producing useful technologies by the end of the 50s; even the final version of the SAGE command and control system had only marginal military utility. More so than with previously-established disciplines receiving military funding, the culture of computer science was permeated with a Cold War military perspective. Indirectly, the ideas of computer science also had a profound effect on psychology, cognitive science and neuroscience through the mind-computer analogy.“
Maybe I didn’t go to school, don’t you think?
Oh really, well – it’s my humble opinion that science and technology had already reached that point anyway. Because the military was able to provide the money, it was the military whose interests were given priority. If it wasn’t the military, it would have been something else. Science does not develop “because of” – science is there, humans discover and wherever the funding is, the direction goes.
Was it Star Trek movies that created the mobile phone? No. The science and technology were already there – the movie only inspired development at that particular time, as did the war in the examples supra.
DARPA may have created a forum to share scientific research, but it was Berners-Lee that was able to link hypertext to the internet …. and so examples abound.
War does not create, it kills.
Burns and blakat:
finally some real discussion Thank you, ok both of you are guys, right?
If we look at philosophy on the one hand with war on the other, we are looking at the product, which is democracy (more or less). This is good, as philosophers, scientists and even warriors are the ppl we need to thank for technological advances, for our right to dream of a better future for our children, and our last resort (!!) in sticky situations.
From a metaphysical standpoint (where I am from) you have to look at intent. The splitting of the atom was a momentous accomplishment in our history BUT look what it brought. Same as explorers, any pioneering is unfortunately based on the ethical consideration of intent. That said, let’s look at Rainbow again. Not nec just about colour but attitude, capacity for conflict resolution etc.
Racism will never be something we will get rid of, any kind of -ism, actually. This is called free will. We have this right and should live it, even if it includes ppl who follow that principle simply to benefit themselves. Now, as sad as that is, we can’t get rid of the fact that those are our differences and we need to LIVE our words. Burns wants to do this through violence (either speech or actual war), Nkosinathi has no other recourse available to him at the moment, blakat wants us to forget the past (I am not dissing you, please understand *hug*).
The simple fact is: we need to LIVE what we want. We need to TEACH the life we want to live to our children and neighbours and then mm.. my FaceBook quote is from Madiba, I’ll cut and paste just to make sure I quote him correctly.
“And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same”
I believe in this principle. It’s almost never easy to live though, and here is another quote bc I like it also
“It is the enemy who can truly teach us to practice the virtues of compassion and tolerance.”
The Dalai Lama
Naturally I’ve waffled on so long I’ve forgotten half I wanted to say originally
Realistically and optimistically
chica in the corner
Hi Chica in the corner – I guess we all believe that our point of view is the correct one. To have one person (who is vehemently anti-war and on top of that, disdainful of the ism’s) on the one side and another who is a re-incarnated Viking will always create debate. However, at least George and I have been able to do that, debate – without becoming filthy about it. You, I agree with …… “a little bit and a little bit not”
Wish I could say the same for everyone on this forum.
in my earlier postings i refer to “technological advance” not the creation of technology. for as you rightly say, the technology was there all along, all we needed was to discover it!
there are many examples in the wikipedia article such as microwave technology etc. that were technologies advanced by the war effort.
war is good. look at chivalry, the basis for modern manners…
it is my humble opinion that we can only grow through conflict. i mean, inner conflict causes resolution that leads to a better understanding of the universe, and oneself.
When we start to place a massive importance on the value of human life, we lose focus. in the greater scheme of things, all that matters is the continual growth of the universe towards infinite complexity, and the reverse thereof. by allowing ego to tricking us into thinking that we are individual and special, we forget that the universe has a higher path in place for us. one that can only be answered when a definitive answer for “the meaning of life” is found.
once we have embraced all aspects of life, war, peace, hate, love, only then can we become enlightened beings. when we realise our nature requires equal amounts of creation and destruction, and accept the dark moon inside us all, can we move to the next plane.
i embrace the concept of war, i embrace the concept of peace. ambiguity, duality, these are the faces of god.
i am bored of playing with you. i have no intention of sending this blogthingy to technikon natal. i just wanted to make you sweat. u have become dull to me. blakat is better conversation, at least blakat has intelligence.
did you just wink at me?
@ George Burns- let’s agree to differ here. I believe, absolutely, that the only way to go is the route of peace and I believe, absolutely, that all nations will have to unite at some point – even if only for economic purposes.
I want only the best for my children because I love them more than life and leaving them a planet filled with hate and mayhem, would break my heart.
We all saw what happened while Madiba was our president and it was incredible because we were all more tolerant of one another. We had hope and we were, then, in a position to build.
Now the country seems to be populated with intolerant, incapable hatemongers who use filth and bad manners in a desperate attempt to ram the country into some form of pseudo-communism, without realising what they’re doing. What irks me even more is that it’s the poor people who will suffer the most that blindly follow the Malemas and the Vavis …. because the education system failed them, while the despots become wealthier and fatter.
AND – I expected more from Helen Zille – she didn’t have to become like a pig simply because she has to sit in the trough.
Blakat, your expectations of Zille is too high and your expectations of the ANC are too low.
This makes life easy for the ruling party, while Zille must watch her smallest step, to please you. Get some balance, please.
Zille is like that first little black kid who joined an all-white school; and the kids are nasty.
One always expects more from those that merit it.
I can hardly expect the same from a mentally handicapped child as I can expect from a child prodigy
I understand you blakat, but even a child prodigy needs care and nurturing, rather than harsh criticism. Unless you seek to bring the prodigy down to the level of the ****** to attain a balance. Surely you can see the problem in that.
Our whole education system is evidence of this dumbing down.
Point taken and conceded. Sleep sweetly.
@ Boikanyo and Nkosinathi Khanyile
oh you mean Joe Seremane, not — Sheremane… shew i nearly thought there was someone i never knew.. Anyways here is a history lesson for the TWO of you TWATTTS that think you know it all, and read carefully, because you will soon read something that might make your gutts turn. did that bug fall off the cork into the water, quick, stick your finger up your nose and push the bug back onto the CORK before it frekin drowns…… ***
Born Wetshotsile Joseph Seremane, he grew up in Randfontein in Gauteng. His became a school teacher in Bekkersdal, until he was barred from the profession for political involvement.
He was sentenced to five years in prison for PAC activities, which he spent on Robben Island from 1963 to 1969, before being ‘deported’ to the then-homeland of Bophuthatswana.
He was further detained without trial from 1976-1978, and several times between 1982 and 1984.
He has served Civic Organisations in advocacy and later, mediation and conflict resolution. He was the director of justice and reconciliation for the SA Council of Churches, and he has served as a chief land claims commissioner.
Seremane’s brother, “Chief” Timothy, a former Umkhonto weSizwe soldier, was killed by ANC commanders in Quatro, Luanda, Angola, after he was accused of being an apartheid spy in 1982.
Seremane appeared before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) in 1997 demanding justice for his brother, whose remains were never returned. The incident is a source of acrimony between him and the leading party.
Seremane is himself a former member of the ANC Youth League of the 1950s. He joined the more militant PAC because it promised immediate mass action and revenge on ANC.
now thats why i like old Joe, he reminds me of MYSELF……
RAY HARTLEY,,, add my comment, dont delete it, stop it, only comment for the day and you reject it,
@ George Burns – I only just received your comments on the atomic bomb so here goes – but, today I have to work and this discussion has taken up far too much time. I’m soooo behind that it’s absurd.
1) The network of laboratories would have been created anyway and would have been put to better use in fighting debilitating diseases that the world can now ill afford. The atomic bomb has only brought horror.
2) Penicillin had been discovered long before that and it would have been used somewhere, anyway – it didn’t need a war. The Germans already had the science, the war may have hastened the development and the jury’s not out on hydrogen peroxide yet.
3) The German Enigma encryption machine was a waste of time – it took the English a while, but they figured it out and what did the thing achieve? All that time wasted!
4) Electronics may have been utilised more and developed more than it would have been – but I often wonder what would have happened if we didn’t learn as much as we did in that period -maybe someone would have spent more time working on alternatives and we wouldn’t have the problems we have now – the problems of a badly damaged planet.
5) I’m a technophobe and I don’t know how my life would have been with digital electronics but even in that case, you won’t convince met that an alternative wouldn’t have been found and you’ll never convince me that war was a positive thing.
So much for the mouse vs the viking.
i’m only stating fact, not speculating.
the fact is that war leads to rapid advances in technology. this is fact.
please acknowledge that my points have merit. i’m not bludgeoning you with speculation, please return the favour.
Do you want me to agree with you? I can’t – many things lead to rapid advances in technology and science but nobody can pinpoint a trigger – a range of possibities could have been the trigger. Your comments on war are historical facts, not scientific facts.
Do you want to tell me that a movie was responsible for these?
Have a good weekend.
yes. they are historic facts. correct you are.
enjoy your weekend too!
thank you so much, not that I can actually see your post here (only in Gmail) but thank you for the info on Seremane. I didn’t know half of that. Shows my ignorance, yes, I just outed myself
Oscar, I can NOT believe you threw that old, typical, cliched “European descendants go back home” at me – do you have any idea just how pathetically childish that is?
My point remains, then all the Bantu migrants that descended down Africa, must also go back to central Africa – rather ridiculous don’t you think???
Either way, the entire method used to justify land re-ditribution is illogical if one considers the original inhabitants are Khoi, Griqua, San, Bushmen – NOT Bantu!!!
What I’m suggesting is that the “WAY” or “Method” behind the logic is wrong to begin with and must be correctly altered.
This country belongs to EVERY SINGLE human born and raised here – end of story, this boring reverse racism is just become a nuisance, and if it’s not corrected – there is going to be ethnic clashes in the not too distant future…
Oh my G** S.A. is going just where the rest of the world predicted! D,D. talks like a stereo-typed African, don’t think to the future, talk of the past!, what cr*p, what an education,Twattt is spelt with one T. Sounds like an ANCYL fool, rather **** in public than have a DA provided privy. Maybe DD is one of the masses who holds out their hands saying gimme, never pays for anything but expects the 5% of taxpayers to be happy working for them, service delivery is an S A concept, in most countries people pay for service, here they demand it as though it were a right. I work 8 hours a day, 4 of those hours I work for nothing my wage goes to pay for free houses, free water etc. for the lazy, those with nothing better to do than protest that they want more of my money! Well it cannot last, 5% of the population cannot sustain the remaining 95% for much longer. I’m with Malema, get it while you can then get out!