In his column in Business Day this morning, Tony Leon wrote: “Zille’s reference to Zuma’s personal history was factually correct but tactically questionable. It struck a discordant note in the upwelling mood which flowed from the presidents’s inauguration and the wave of optimism it generated.”
And he was critical of Zille’s Western Cape Cabinet choices, saying: “I think Bill Clinton got it right when, in appointing his first administration in 1992, he announced: “I want a cabinet that looks like America”. The fact that the Western Cape provincial government doesn’t look like SA, or on the face of it is overloaded with testosterone, doesn’t mean it won’t deliver or won’t be vigilant on feminist issues. But it handed a sword to the party’s opponents, who were delighted to plunge it in with vigour. And politics is often more about symbols than substance.”
Pretty much the way I saw it in my blog posts. Now will the DA hacks accuse Tony Leon of sucking up to the ANC?
Ray, you better look out now. The children of the cult of Mrs Helen Maree aka Helen Zille, will, under the leadership of chief lieutenant Larry Goodfella, be accusing you of journalistic bias now……especilly for quoting the former leader of the DA out of context.
To quote Larry again from the recent past:
Ray you are bordering on ludicrous, with your self-serving hack-spin.
Such passion, such passion!! Of course, the children of the cult of Mrs Maree have been thouroughly brainwashed by now…….they are probably foaming at the mouth at this very moment!! How dare you, journalist vermin, REPORT ON WHAT WAS SAID AGAINST OUR ILLUSTRIOUS LEADER!!
Heeeeeeheeee. Have a good weekend, you zilleouts!! Pity about Tony.
I concur with Tony Leon’s view 100% and posted a few items saying exactly that on the day the story first broke. A number of rational bloggers held similar views and they were DA and non-DA supporters. Hysterical apologists like Kwanda and Bonginkosi on the other hand will never acknowledge the filth that their ANC masters dispensed during this low point in our political debate. It is because they cannot recognise filth just as Ndebele could not initially recognise the R1 million as a bribe.
Eli, I have always called for rationality. You are bordering on slander when you call me an ANC apologist. Cease and desist!!
So go ahead and make a call on the slanderous clap-trap about Zille that various ANC spokespeople have put out.
I have!! Or have you been reading selectively???? Come on, you are better than that.
I must say that Tony Leon was a flawed politician, but he is a whipass writer.
Whips your *** Ray.
Tony Leon is entitled to his opinion, but I am sure that if he were in Zilles place and under the kind of attack from the ANC that she has been experiencing prior to her ‘Zuma’ comment; then he would have used just as harsh honesty and invective in response.
Anyone can question Zilles tactics, but dont embellish untruths. I too concur with Tony.
Bongs, you are crowing like a cockrel in a chickenrun without hens.
…And it still must be pointed out that the previous WC cabinet had only two women out of fourteen ministers, until the Brown window dressing was introduced. Then it was just 3 out of fourteen. Not very gender friendly. Neh.
Ray – it does not matter who says it, so long as YOU, in your powerful position as Editor of an influential newspaper, do not cause people to believe that Tony and Helen are ‘attacking’ each other over his opinion, or that the DA is becoming ‘deeply divided’ as a result of his ‘questioning’.
Please get it now.
But Tony is attacking Helen, Larry. This is how politics plays itself out. Get it now?
So Larry, you actually CONCUR WITH TONY??? Wow. This has to be the beginning of the end of the cult of Mrs Maree when the chief lieutenant concurs with that evil witch, Tony Leon!! Two dissents in one week. This is an interesting end to this week.
Maybe in your world, Ray, when a headline is designed to grab attention to your article.
I simply disagree with you. Barbara Hogan ‘attacked’ the ANC decision to deny the Dalai Lama a visa. As far as the ANC were concerned it was just a difference of opinion, when it was an actual fierce disagreement. The difference was that the ANC was morally wrong in its stance towards this icon of peace, and Hogan was right to condemn them.
Zille was factually right in her assertion about Zuma, and you found that any inner mild difference of opinion within the DA was, and still is, a vicious attack.
You are crying semantics.
Ray and Bonginkosi.. are you both high?
it’s not an attack! it’s the plain and simple truth.
Chica, Lizzy whatever, Thanks for letting us know about your lifestyle habits……please don’t share that much. We don’t do high and we really don’t care for it.
Ray, a lot of people, your readership, stepped up and exposed you for overdoing the headline and story, both in your blog and in The Times.
This was no concerted effort or politically organised response. It was a heartfelt deluge of individual condemnation because it was wrong. Very few people blog like this and many were once off complaints.
No semantics and maybe’s. Just plain wrong. Learn and be careful in future. Just like Helen Zille.
Regards
Phony Leon is correct for once…Silly Zille and the Dumb Asses are marginalizing themselves with their spitting snarling confrontational approach to politics. But then he was the most rabid of the spitters and snarlers in his time wasn’t he. Just a tad ironic that he can see the futility and negativity when it comes from his successor.
They all have little of value to contribute to nation building. The Western Cape electorate will figure that out soon enough.
How do these hill billy’s actually manage to put one step in front of the other. Model T Ford brain power.
Mzala, you may be rihgt. What you are not aware of is that there are many dimensions to constructing and designing a ‘thought’ on an issue. You think you thunk, right.
Kwanda
May 22, 2009 at 11:16 amGo Tony!Go Tony!Go Tony!hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha