Be scared not of AK, but me. I’m the quite type that sneaks up behind you…I say this with regret over your reply regarding my last submission. In that, you agree that black = failure. Whites, in turn, will leave in droves to Australia and if you are an Afrikaner you will be doomed under my leadership.

To keep it short BEE and black = failure (as you say it) will be here until Jesus comes (not the ANC’s Jesus).

I thought I was dealing with a sensible human being, but I won’t entertain any of your comments with my reply.

The hate I feel for your kind Larry, keeps me up 24/7.

As a professional, I can’t wait until I reach the top, you will see a poppy dance…

That’s not a threat, it’s a promise “WHITE MAN” soon to be endangered species.

Earlier, you said – “Larry, your ambition to see things as black = failure, is unfortunate. White South Africans are very fortunate of being shown tolerance by black people. White people as whole have never admitting their wrongs.”

My reply (with respect obviously) as follows”

Firstly, black = failure is not my ambition, it is a sad reality. Africa stands alone and ashamed as its own evidence of this fact. I get no pleasure from this truth. It would give me the greatest pleasure to see failure turn to success, so that I too can share in it and make my family (and countrymen) safe from the likes of AK and his mau-mau mob. I am not talking about wealth, but rather the state of success that occurs when things are done right and are working right; – those same aims of the Freedom Charter.

You say that “White South Africans are very fortunate of being shown tolerance by black people”, and that “White people as whole have never admitting their wrongs.”
I answer with the same generality that – Black South Africans are very fortunate to be given so much charity from white people. Black people have never appreciated this, and instead of thanks, whites are told that they are wrong in everything that they do. Do the black people ever admit their wrongs?
There are always two sides of the coin, and enlightened people make it their business to be familiar with both; – but let us not stray too far from the issues under discussion.

My brother, respect is earned. Even respect for your own father. This places sufficient leverage on the father to act and be respectable – so that we may learn and emulate good behavior. Most importantly, so that we can succeed in life individually, and as a nation.

“I am so glad we are descending to being Burundi.Will the settlers contact their relatives home and tell them,the end has eventually come. I cannot wait to see the prophecy coming to fruition.

Now real liberation is beginning.Fake leaders have been ejected.And if they stand on our way,we will defend our self determination with our blood and if that entails killing.Let it be.”

My reply as follows:
AK. It did not take much for you to pick up your spear, or to show yourself for what you really are.
It did not take much for the recent xenophobic attacks either.

Well done AK. Spoken like a true African.
You squabble amongst yourselves and take it out on the innocent. Aint gonna happen here boet. This isnt Zim with 6000 white farmers who you can push around with impunity.

Heh heh, AK. It did not take much for you to pick up your spear, or to show yourself for what you really are.
It did not take much for the recent xenophobic attacks either.

Well done AK. Spoken like a true African.
You squabble amongst yourselves and take it out on the innocent. Aint gonna happen here boet. This isnt Zim with 6000 white farmers who you can push around with impunity.

Thando. In the interest of decent debate, I must challenge you on a few of your comments.

Firstly, black = failure is not my ambition, it is a sad reality. Africa stands alone and ashamed as its own evidence of this fact. I get no pleasure from this truth. It would give me the greatest pleasure to see failure turn to success, so that I too can share in it and make my family (and countrymen) safe from the likes of AK and his mau-mau mob. I am not talking about wealth, but rather the state of success that occurs when things are done right and are working right; – those same aims of the Freedom Charter.

You say that “White South Africans are very fortunate of being shown tolerance by black people”, and that “White people as whole have never admitting their wrongs.”
I answer with the same generality that – Black South Africans are very fortunate to be given so much charity from white people. Black people have never appreciated this, and instead of thanks, whites are told that they are wrong in everything that they do. Do the black people ever admit their wrongs?
There are always two sides of the coin, and enlightened people make it their business to be familiar with both; – but let us not stray too far from the issues under discussion.

My brother, respect is earned. Even respect for your own father. This places sufficient leverage on the father to act and be respectable – so that we may learn and emulate good behavior. Most importantly, so that we can succeed in life individually, and as a nation.

May I also put in my own two bob in this discussion? I see people are quite obsessed about the ANC being taken over by the communists and the workers union.

From what I see, all this talk emanates from poor history knowledge, which I am prepared to proffer here at no charge. It is difficult to argue unless you allow me to say a few facts, which are fundamental to our discussion

First, we need to agree that history is nothing but the battle for the soul of the world. Right from the day God created the world, the two brothers killed each other for no reason than that each wanted to be superior. You can look as close as the Egyptian times; it was the same battle of control of the word, small as it was during those days.

You can come nearer still to the days in Palestine, the Jews wanting to control the Arabs and the Arabs wanting the same.

All along nobody came with a clear definition of what the situation was. It always appeared that it was a battle between nations. At some point it was described as the battle between the haves and the have-nots. I honestly believe the person who gave us the best clarification of what the problem was, was the communist manifesto. Only then did it become clear that the battle was for the majority wanting to free themselves from the minority. This will hold true whether we are talking socialism or capitalism.

Having said so, until the Russian revolution or rather until the Marxist theory, none had put the problem so well. It is just fortuitous that capitalism had taken giant strikes in a very short time to place itself as the harbinger of world production. You will realize that all along, the rule by kings, emperors was really not much different from what the bourgeoisie wanted to do. The difference is that the entrance into the capitalist bourgeoisie class was seemingly more open and any man could enter and leave provide he was prepared to pay the price. Let me add a short sentence by my school teacher.” Poor people can proceed from poverty to prosperity, provided they are prepared to pay the price.”

What we had not been aware of until that time was the fact that capitalism, was never a fair system, nor was it ever going to be. It was just a matter of time before the well-structured revolt against capitalism could be found. It was only a matter of the stark realization of the facts, bourgeoisie capitalist had put mechanism, all be it per chance of bolstering his survival. It is only the nature of capitalism that the rebels would along the way fight each other while all sincere that they are fighting the enemy.

The only way the oppressed who had – by the process of history been identified as the working class, could only save themselves through amalgamating their power in what was called the labour movement. It is just obvious or the natural progression that the bourgeoisie would align themselves into political parties, conservatives or liberals. It was only a matter of time that the labour movement would seek to graduate to be something of greater power than just a union. Out of that was born labour parties and out of that was born the true communist party.

Why am I telling you all this. I am doing so, to delegitimise the argument that labour must remain labour and leave politics to the politicians. It is out of this clarification that you will see that the SACP and COSATU are one. Whether the core ANC had actually realized that labour was a distinct group within it or not is not really important. You must remember that during those days oppression was at the factory and oppression was also a political front where people were killed and sentenced to prisons without the due legal process.

If you have been following me, you will then appreciate that pure politics and labour movement became one. You will then understand why the bourgeoisie in Africa was using his political power to run the factory. The worker could not abandon this advantage and view themselves as laborers without also acknowledging that they too were political beings with political aspirations.

It becomes them futile to see where labour starts and ends and where the political being begins and ends. If the bourgeois can amalgamate economic power with political power, why should the worker not do the same? Out of this was born communism, which then realized that the class distinction was nothing but the ploy to exploit the lower class by the middle class who thought they were better, while they were both oppressed by the real ruler- the bourgeoisie. Capitalism had just changed the playing fields, but it is the same Cain and Abel battle. It is the same Rich Man – Lazarus battle.

I could go on and on and show you what the real battle is. I think for one day this is enough. I hope from now people will stop to insist that SACP and COSATU must stop dictating to the ANC.

Just in closing I would like to quote you” We work for you, we Kay you, we shoot you, we fool you, we rule you.” Out of this was born the hatred for religion, which was then justified as the religious were having their kingdom on earth while promising the poor riches in heaven. This is not entirely correct, but quite understandable.

If you begin to look at things in this way, then you will realize the futility of the Lekota party. The free spirit of the poor to determine their future and destiny will not be dampened and fooled by Lekota. If anything, the poor will follow him only to topple him having seen how easy it was to topple Thabo Mbeki and the inexperienced elite.

These people lacked the political skill to keep the masses happy while they enjoyed themselves.

It is the poor who toppled Mbeki. It is the poor who are crying for freedom. The poor have found the new meaning of the word uHuru. It is the poor who will topple the labour movement if the labour movement is not upfront with the poor.

South Africa will never be the same. Lekota may take his chances; the SACP leadership may take their chances; whoever, may take their chances. We are in an unstable transitional state. It is very important that whoever poses to be a leader does so with the most genuine heart; otherwise the same tsunami that toppled the Mbeki- Lekota group, which is now trying to enter through the back door, will topple the topplers.

Why am I saying all this. I am telling you to obviate a situation where we have unending tsunamis.

Enough for the day.

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You are most unfair to me. How can you single me out for racism,when gxamalaza has deteriorated to such poor levels of tribalism. He is force feeding me Swazism.

Have you ever seen a mixed race Swazi. What will you say when you see me. My brother I look like Robert Mc Bride. What is Zulu or Swazi in that. I see the level of debate here is very low. I will post for you what we are debating these days. Kndly read what we write and see,if you have enough brain power to grasp