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	<title>Comments on: Is Web 2.0 stirring up racism and hate in South Africa?</title>
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		<title>By: Tim  Singiswa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim  Singiswa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snowy,brown and this chihuahua that calls itself zuma YOU ARE IN THE ZOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU LOOK LIKE MONKEYS TOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowy,brown and this chihuahua that calls itself zuma YOU ARE IN THE ZOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU LOOK LIKE MONKEYS TOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celine Dion is the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celine Dion is the greatest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Zuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Zuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to your question, I would like to say I doubt it will make any difference. 90% of the monkeys in the zoo can´t read, so how could they be offended, and those that can will recognise it as the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to your question, I would like to say I doubt it will make any difference. 90% of the monkeys in the zoo can´t read, so how could they be offended, and those that can will recognise it as the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowy Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFTER the ANC came to power? 

Message:
&quot;What did South Africa have before the ANC came to power? 

Answer: Electricity.&quot; 
 
&quot;What did South Africa have AFTER the ANC came to power? 

Answer: NO Electricity,&quot; 
Highest Crime rate in the World, 
Highest Murder rate in the World,
Highest Murder of White Farmers in the World,
Highest Rape rate in the World, 
Highest HIV in the World, 
Highest Street and River Pollution in the World, 
Highest Bay pollution in the World,. 
Highest pollution on the Beaches in the World, 
Highest Corruption in the World, 
Highest amount of cash just gone missing in the World, 
Highest amount of Criminals in Parliament,. 
Highest amount of Criminals in Municipalities,
Highest amount of Corruption in the Police,
Highest amount of Criminals in the Police.
Highest ERROR OF JUDGMENTS IN THE WORLD, 
Highest Noise Pollution from Police Cavalcades in the World, 
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World,
Fastest deterioration of Infrastructure and Roads in the world,
Most negligent baby deaths in Hospitals World Wide, 
Worst Taxi drivers in the World, 
Most Road Deaths caused by Black Taxies World Wide, 
Most Taxi unpaid Traffic fines in the World, 
Loudest Taxies in the World, 
Most Road Robots out of order in the World,. 
Most manhole covers stolen in the World, 
Most illegal electricity connections in the World, 
Most non paying electricity customers in the World, 
Most non paying Rates customers in the World,. 
Highest Attorney Theft and Fraud in the World, 
Highest Police bulling law-abiding citizens for a Bribe, 
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World, 
Highest number of Defective Condoms recalled in the world.
Worst Education in Africa, if not the World, 
Highest amount of forged Education Certificates.
Highest Double Standards in the World, 
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World, 
Even the Vagrants are complaining along VAGRANT EMBANKMENT, 
They cannot sleep. 

 -30 Screaming Police Sirens per day and all night. 

NOISE POLLUTION.
ANC going to SUPPER. ETC ETC ETC 
ANC going to the AIRPORT ETC ETC ETC 
These same useless Policemen cannot catch the Criminals, 
All they can do day and night is abuse the police siren and force all the law abiding citizens out the way. 

Those same USELESS POLICE who cannot catch criminals nor do their job.
I know were the criminals are how come the Police cannot find the criminals?????
Are the Police AFRAID of the BLACK CRIMINALS?

The Policemen are the most useless bunch I have ever seen. 
I have laid many complaints. 

Please give us a sensible realistic, adult answer to solving this ANC CRIME CRISIS in South Africa.

Any suggestions??? 

Apartheid is NOT to Blame we have already eliminated that one. 
It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with the NATS. 
It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with Hendrik Verwoerd. 

It’s an ANC CRIME CRISIS in South Africa.

Before you go please give me full details who is doing all the crime in South Africa and how are we going to solve it?????? 

I hope you Blacks are NOT going to leave it to us Whiteys to sort out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTER the ANC came to power? </p>
<p>Message:<br />
&#8220;What did South Africa have before the ANC came to power? </p>
<p>Answer: Electricity.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;What did South Africa have AFTER the ANC came to power? </p>
<p>Answer: NO Electricity,&#8221;<br />
Highest Crime rate in the World,<br />
Highest Murder rate in the World,<br />
Highest Murder of White Farmers in the World,<br />
Highest Rape rate in the World,<br />
Highest HIV in the World,<br />
Highest Street and River Pollution in the World,<br />
Highest Bay pollution in the World,.<br />
Highest pollution on the Beaches in the World,<br />
Highest Corruption in the World,<br />
Highest amount of cash just gone missing in the World,<br />
Highest amount of Criminals in Parliament,.<br />
Highest amount of Criminals in Municipalities,<br />
Highest amount of Corruption in the Police,<br />
Highest amount of Criminals in the Police.<br />
Highest ERROR OF JUDGMENTS IN THE WORLD,<br />
Highest Noise Pollution from Police Cavalcades in the World,<br />
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World,<br />
Fastest deterioration of Infrastructure and Roads in the world,<br />
Most negligent baby deaths in Hospitals World Wide,<br />
Worst Taxi drivers in the World,<br />
Most Road Deaths caused by Black Taxies World Wide,<br />
Most Taxi unpaid Traffic fines in the World,<br />
Loudest Taxies in the World,<br />
Most Road Robots out of order in the World,.<br />
Most manhole covers stolen in the World,<br />
Most illegal electricity connections in the World,<br />
Most non paying electricity customers in the World,<br />
Most non paying Rates customers in the World,.<br />
Highest Attorney Theft and Fraud in the World,<br />
Highest Police bulling law-abiding citizens for a Bribe,<br />
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World,<br />
Highest number of Defective Condoms recalled in the world.<br />
Worst Education in Africa, if not the World,<br />
Highest amount of forged Education Certificates.<br />
Highest Double Standards in the World,<br />
Highest Abuse of Police Sirens in the World,<br />
Even the Vagrants are complaining along VAGRANT EMBANKMENT,<br />
They cannot sleep. </p>
<p> -30 Screaming Police Sirens per day and all night. </p>
<p>NOISE POLLUTION.<br />
ANC going to SUPPER. ETC ETC ETC<br />
ANC going to the AIRPORT ETC ETC ETC<br />
These same useless Policemen cannot catch the Criminals,<br />
All they can do day and night is abuse the police siren and force all the law abiding citizens out the way. </p>
<p>Those same USELESS POLICE who cannot catch criminals nor do their job.<br />
I know were the criminals are how come the Police cannot find the criminals?????<br />
Are the Police AFRAID of the BLACK CRIMINALS?</p>
<p>The Policemen are the most useless bunch I have ever seen.<br />
I have laid many complaints. </p>
<p>Please give us a sensible realistic, adult answer to solving this ANC CRIME CRISIS in South Africa.</p>
<p>Any suggestions??? </p>
<p>Apartheid is NOT to Blame we have already eliminated that one.<br />
It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with the NATS.<br />
It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with Hendrik Verwoerd. </p>
<p>It’s an ANC CRIME CRISIS in South Africa.</p>
<p>Before you go please give me full details who is doing all the crime in South Africa and how are we going to solve it?????? </p>
<p>I hope you Blacks are NOT going to leave it to us Whiteys to sort out.</p>
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		<title>By: Twylite</title>
		<link>http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/hartley/2008/02/07/is-web-20-stirring-up-racism-and-hate-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-9206</link>
		<dc:creator>Twylite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social media just allows more people to exercise their freedom of speech.  Unfortunately not all speech is constructive, and so we get unsavory comments (by racists, etc).

This is actually a good thing.  Individuals maintain their state of prejudice because (1) their opinions are representative of their peer group; (2) groups actively reinforce common values and resist change; and (3) it is natural for people to assume that their individual and group beliefs are more widely represented in society than is the actual case.

So I say that unsavory comments on blogs are a good thing because individuals will be challenged on their opinions, subjected to new ideas, and learn that their beliefs are not universal.  Not all individuals will change, but being confronted with alternatives is the basis for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media just allows more people to exercise their freedom of speech.  Unfortunately not all speech is constructive, and so we get unsavory comments (by racists, etc).</p>
<p>This is actually a good thing.  Individuals maintain their state of prejudice because (1) their opinions are representative of their peer group; (2) groups actively reinforce common values and resist change; and (3) it is natural for people to assume that their individual and group beliefs are more widely represented in society than is the actual case.</p>
<p>So I say that unsavory comments on blogs are a good thing because individuals will be challenged on their opinions, subjected to new ideas, and learn that their beliefs are not universal.  Not all individuals will change, but being confronted with alternatives is the basis for change.</p>
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		<title>By: South African</title>
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		<dc:creator>South African</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done on pointing out this important issue, and of course racism permeates through South African society - but why?  And what can be done about it? The answer to the second question is the easier one - &quot;if you want to make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change&quot;.  I think the blogging world has a valuable role to play, in the way racist incidences are treated by the communities.

Why is racism so unnecessarily ingrained in our society - the obvious answer is apartheid, however we still live in an environment where there&#039;s institutionalised racism in, for example, our labour policies.  Most institutions have a preference to hire blacks.  I&#039;m not saying this is right or wrong, but I am not surprised that racism is still so rife when it lives and breeds in our institutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done on pointing out this important issue, and of course racism permeates through South African society &#8211; but why?  And what can be done about it? The answer to the second question is the easier one &#8211; &#8220;if you want to make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change&#8221;.  I think the blogging world has a valuable role to play, in the way racist incidences are treated by the communities.</p>
<p>Why is racism so unnecessarily ingrained in our society &#8211; the obvious answer is apartheid, however we still live in an environment where there&#8217;s institutionalised racism in, for example, our labour policies.  Most institutions have a preference to hire blacks.  I&#8217;m not saying this is right or wrong, but I am not surprised that racism is still so rife when it lives and breeds in our institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Balsdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Balsdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is problematic. However I do not have an issue with people&#039;s points of view. It is when they start with the obscene language. It reminds me of primary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is problematic. However I do not have an issue with people&#8217;s points of view. It is when they start with the obscene language. It reminds me of primary school.</p>
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		<title>By: Stii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like saying Web2.0 has nothing to do with racism. Technically it does not, but I hear what you are saying. It unfortunately gives them a vehicle to vent their stupid opinions. 

Why don&#039;t you guys simply make an example. They might seem anonymous, but they sure can be tracked down! It might be a bit of a mission, but these assholes would think twice before writing their crap next time! All you need is to unmask a couple of them and then let justice take its due course. End of problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like saying Web2.0 has nothing to do with racism. Technically it does not, but I hear what you are saying. It unfortunately gives them a vehicle to vent their stupid opinions. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you guys simply make an example. They might seem anonymous, but they sure can be tracked down! It might be a bit of a mission, but these <acronym title="assholes">********</acronym> would think twice before writing their <acronym title="crap">****</acronym> next time! All you need is to unmask a couple of them and then let justice take its due course. End of problem!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another one by &#039;Hitler&#039;. I just had to find out if he was white (excuse racism) and you can see by the message he is not.

This is from &#039;Jeppestown judge accused of bias&#039;. He repeated the same message as above on that article too.


Hitler said at Feb 8 2008 8:21PM
morecats,

Did you serve in the former SADF? Where were you deployed? Was it in the townships to protect our nation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another one by &#8216;Hitler&#8217;. I just had to find out if he was white (excuse racism) and you can see by the message he is not.</p>
<p>This is from &#8216;Jeppestown judge accused of bias&#8217;. He repeated the same message as above on that article too.</p>
<p>Hitler said at Feb 8 2008 8:21PM<br />
morecats,</p>
<p>Did you serve in the former SADF? Where were you deployed? Was it in the townships to protect our nation?</p>
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		<title>By: JoeyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, I have reported abuse of my own message there because I feel the less people who see it the better, I hope you can read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, I have reported abuse of my own message there because I feel the less people who see it the better, I hope you can read it.</p>
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